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  • gc28262
    06-15 04:22 PM
    Ivar and group,

    ...............................
    My suggestion here is that let the outsourcers take the hit. They have always benefitted by flouting the rules. If your concern is way too high for your L1 brothers then you would find it prudent to bring in the law that clearly states "Pay high wages for the L1s or dont bring them in here". ..........................................
    dilipcr,

    Please wake up from your dream. No matter how you want it, outsourcing won't go away.

    Outsourcing companies will always provide a lower cost to client as long as dollar is valuable than rupee ( or any other developing world currency).

    They can do this by one of the following ways.

    Use L1s for client site assignments. Some of these maybe illegal. Still they do it. Client is happy, outsourcers are happy.

    Let us say everybody complains to ICE about this and L1 visas are unavailable for outsourcers. Their next strategy is to change the ratio of onsite resources to offshore resources. Again they will offer a cheaper solution to client. For executing a project in onsite/offshore model they don't need all these L1 guys here. They just need a few managers and maybe some team leads. They can execute the project with minumum resources onsite. Company and client wins again. The only reason they place so many resources onsite is to charge the client at dollar rate.

    If US wants to prevent offshoring they have to ban offshoring explicitly. Doing so will go against the WTO rules.

    To summarize, outsourcing cannot be stopped. Salary levels will always go down with time.





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  • reddymjm
    09-23 03:42 PM
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  • GCard_Dream
    03-20 12:10 PM
    Don't even bother. I have tried arguing the same thing over and over again yet some people never seem to get it and keep comparing Canada and US. The reason people are even talking about Canada is because there is almost no hope for GC in US and people keep on saying US is better. It is but what good will it do to you if you can't stay here and enjoy the so called better opportunity in US.

    What makes you think we will not file Canadian taxes ? Ofcourse we will file taxes.
    No one is forcing anyonme to apply or move to Canada. Also why compare US and Canada . We are going there because US is not giving GC and we dont want to live in turmoil for years.
    Compare US and Canada only when both options are open for you.

    I will repeat an analogy I had given earlier to describe Canada/USA compare.

    Say you are a pure vegeterian. You go to a restauraunt where you have 2 choices masala dosa and mutton biryani. Lets say the mutton biryani is supposed to be specilaity of that place and is awesome but still the poor veg guy has to choose masals dosa because he has no other choice. Telling him the mutton biryani is excellent is pointless correct !





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  • longq
    02-14 10:13 PM
    I'm sorry, I haven't monitored the web-site since my last posting.

    Today reality hit me very hard. I am in my late thirties and I haven't had much adversity in my life regarding financial, career, family, etc.

    However; today reality really hit me hard.

    One gentlemen, his name was Raja Pitchai. He had asked me to help him file his I-140 and ask for cross chargeability to his wife's place of birth (singapore). USCIS accepted his package and his 140 got approved in a couple of months. (his priority date; india became available one month later anyways (he was from india eb2).

    He was the one of the nicest guys I have talked to. Very courteous fellow.

    They couldn't approve his case because he was stuck in name check. Well, his wife called me today and told me that he passed away last week (brain tumor). He had two U.S. citizen children but him and his wife have no relatives here.

    She doesn't seem to be interested to stay here (she wouldn't be able to keep the greencard process going anyways because the death of the petitioner is automatic denial). She is leaving USA and was going through all the things she needs to wind up. I don't know if she would have stayed here if she got the greencard and I didn't want to task. Reality really him home today.

    I need a couple of days to get over this.

    It is very sad to hear this story. Very sorry for him and his family. May god bless his family. When we here this kind of story, in a foreign land where no relatives are there, the life is so pathatic here. The reality is differnt. There is something big and important for us other than green card. The life, health and family is very important than GC. May god bless all of us.

    Once again, very sorry for your nice friend.



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  • Michael chertoff
    01-13 01:00 PM
    If wishes were wings, pigs would fly

    thank you for your kind words. but why are you looking for PIG. are you not happy with your DOG. still we can be friends.

    Thanks

    MC





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 03:45 PM
    mc,

    this guy is pulling u'r chains..... its not she.... its a he.....

    u know who this guy is? surprise surprise ....... gcperm is back.... as plainspeak....

    hey gcperm aka plainspeak..... long time.... where've u been? i missed u :rolleyes:
    Ron Hira my friend you are on an immigration forum and you have an Anti Immigrant login id. Now what could be funnier than that Ha Ha...

    As to me being a guy phasshhhhhh i am all female

    And i am laughing in my pants seeing you confuse me with GCPerm. I remeber seeing that name on IV before. Was he an EB3 who was kicked out by you guys ?



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  • mariusp
    02-13 02:28 PM
    What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by and we get GC handed to us on a platter when in fact up until yesterday EB-3 ROW was just as retrogressed as any other category not to mention that labor (pre PERM) and name check delays affected ROW just as much as everyone else. For instance, my brother, who is EB3-ROW with a PD of Dec 2002... and has been in the US since early 2000 and is still waiting in line...so do the math.

    We're all in this crap together, some worse than others... so let's stop with this ROW Vs India & China nonsense. Country quotas are unfair and frankly the entire GC process is unfair and unpredictable... We should aim for solutions that solve this issue in a comprehensive way, not by dividing us even further.


    Per country quota is what is killing India/China.. and that is the fact.. on an average ROW person waits for 3 years whereas India/China wait for eons.. as WD said if some one wants diversity go apply for a lottery or for better seek asylum... :mad::mad:





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  • jhaalaa
    01-13 04:56 PM
    USCIS - Questions & Answers: USCIS Issues Guidance Memorandum on Establishing the "Employee-Employer Relationship" in H-1B Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3d015869c9326210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)



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  • perm2gc
    10-24 04:47 PM
    One person stepped out of the line and another one took his place... How is that worse for you (or anybody else)? (let alone worst) You are still 957,643rd in the line :)
    Line will always move forward not stand still like a wall...:p :p :p





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  • snathan
    01-19 01:27 PM
    Yeah and I don't mind hiring your sister and mother too. After all I am EOE. You shut up and if you feel bad leave this profession. It's that simple. But don't be in state of denial. I just shown you the mirror. This reply pl don't read with humor.

    From the moment this thread got created you are the only one constantly ourbursting against your ex-employer. You forgot that you are giving fodder to antis. If you read the entire thread, you are the only one talking out of context. Clam down and think how you can contibute possitively. You outburst is not going to help anyone including you.



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  • GCDream
    07-03 08:39 PM
    http://digg.com/politics/No_July_4th_Celebrations_for_Highly_Skilled_Future _Americans/who

    got 156 so far..

    We need more then this..
    Dugg 159

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  • whatamidoinghere
    02-19 03:01 AM
    Well discussion here. Under present situation (w/o any legislative relief) labor certification based EB folks, particulary Indians, cannot think of GC/485 for next 10 years. The problem here is, they are stopping the flood gate in 485 stage. If they (CIS/DOS) do not need high skilled immigrants, stop them in LC stage itself. Testing labor market in 2001, for a permanent job that is going to be assumed by a foreign worker only in (after 485 approval) 2010 is a joke. The best slution is market based numarical limitation without any country quota.

    Yeah its a joke and it is obvious to us that there should be legislation to fix this. However the current situation is so beneficial to the US that it may be stupid for them to try and fix it. The lack of immigrant visas isn't bringing anything down. Fresh H1B and L1 workers will continue to pour into the country and "old, stale, spent, burnt out, balding" workers will leave the country frustrated with the wait. The scientists and executives whose experience is useful to have will get into EB1 slots and stay.

    So two choices
    1. Lets continue to pay income tax, pay social security tax, spend the prime of our lives working here and then GET OUT when we are no longer needed.. OR..
    2. Lobby hard, for which we should contribute some serious money to IV. Whats holding back the EB3 folks?? the doors are almost closed for them. They should be contributing in large numbers..

    EB2 Ind & Chi.. if dates dont move for April (new calendar quarter), we better start contributing too



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  • tonyHK12
    01-14 10:27 AM
    And yes my friend TinyHK12 you might have just lost the support of the one guy on this forum who while not being abusive about my post also did NOT support me. He was rooting for AmitJoye a senior member here and some one with whose idea you agree 100%. Thats called as shooting yourselves in the foot
    don't make up your own sorry, sad, soap opera


    If you do no agree to a post all of you gang up and start abusing the posters and any unfortunate souls who agree with the posters. Normally that is enough to scare the poster away.

    Your first mistake is criticizing IV and its strategy on a open forum. The core listens to only ideas from active volunteers and donors and incorporates their suggestions, not a free loader, day dreamer who thinks he/she is brilliant. What any one else says on forums doesn't make any difference.
    You think that by arguing on the forum, you can come up with a better idea.
    So in a way you're just throwing eggs at IV. All you talk for the last 2 days is just wasting everyones time.
    If you want IV to listen to you, you must have actively worked with them in the last 4 years, gained knowledge about advocacy and their trust and only then can they consider any of your ideas.
    You have clearly shown that you know nothing.
    This is a message for other members too, if you want core and management to listen to your ideas, be active in your state chapter and many mail groups we have working on intiatives, rather than cursing on forums.
    You will then be working on action items that can change the lives of legal immigrants for the better and make a big difference.





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  • glus
    02-13 07:19 AM
    Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:

    The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK.
    The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get.

    As a community we will need to become a PR nightmare for govt. officals... simply being an inconvenience is not going to cut it... we will have to become a "a cactus that is stuck in the colon".

    USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
    This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.

    By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE!

    We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.

    Class actions are not performed easily. First,one needs to show that an agency acted illegally and that action caused many people harm. The fact that USCIS did not use all the visa numbers is not automatically illegal. The law says that the MAXIMUM number of visas, for example, in the EB is 140,000 per fiscal year. It does not say what's the minimum. I am not an attorney, but if that were an easy case, many times would someone else have tried it. Good idea, but as far as I know, difficult to fight from a legal point of view. I'll ask my attorney about this and will keep you posted.



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  • arunmurthy
    09-17 03:23 PM
    I wish the statement is true.

    I think your friends cousin got the card by mistake, that does not mean that it will see a significant moment for EB3 I. The only possibility is if USICIS wants to recapture the unused visa numbers over a period of time, then EB2 I, EB3 I all move together.

    I think you are correct. Lets see how the next bulletin turns out to be.
    I just pray EB3I moves to June 05.





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  • andy garcia
    02-12 09:30 PM
    Agreed this is discrimination, what stops us from fighting this discrimination using legal class action lawsuit? Is it the money required or did a lawsuit fail earlier that inhibits us to file class action lawsuit?

    It is the law. You can try to sue congress.

    INA: ACT 202 - NUMERICAL LIMITATION TO ANY SINGLE FOREIGN STATE
    (a) Per Country Level. -

    (1) Nondiscrimination. -

    (A) Except as specifically provided in paragraph (2) no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an IV because of the person's race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.

    (B) Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to limit the authority of the Secretary of State to determine the procedures for the processing of IV applications or the locations where such applications will be processed.

    (2) Per country levels for family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants. - Subject to 1a/ paragraphs (3), (4), and (5) the total number of IVs made available to natives of any single foreign state or dependent area under subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 in any FY may not exceed 7 percent (in the case of a single foreign state) or 2 percent (in the case of a dependent area) of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections in that fiscal year.

    (3) Exception if additional visas available. - If because of the application of paragraph (2) with respect to one or more foreign states or dependent areas, the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) of section 203 for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who otherwise may be issued such a visa, paragraph (2) shall not apply to visas made available to such states or areas during the remainder of such calendar quarter.



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  • gimmeacard
    08-02 01:07 AM
    Any ways, it is not going to stop me from having fun here. Any body with more interested stories to keep people informed and entertained till they get gc. Too much predicting would kill the mood. To be motivated u need some fun too.


    so i got tricked this time, in checkout lane met some guy with his kid, started chatting casual nuthing on those bombay guy or other stuff which amway uses, finally he stated that he knows of some folks that have their business here in fremont,ca he is planning to see how they operate, i assumed business means some store related or so, since he didnt seem like an IT guy .

    next day get a call, i ask him if its quickster, n he says u heard of it...why wife started laughing @ me, saying u got tricked this time, normally i wud recognise these guys in 1look





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  • sreedhar
    09-04 12:13 PM
    nik.patelc,

    That might be true..revelation of a corrupt politician...masking people deaths for a vicious cause of sympathy.

    Just one quick question�?

    If you get a chance as politician, Can you say you will not do any corruption? If some try to kill you, if you have power, will you be remain silent �?

    Facts:

    1) If the person doesn�t want to do corruption even he is politician, He always be calm and do some social work as much as he can.

    2) If the person who they want to make big money in easy way�they will choose politics and step by step they grow and do some cheatings like CBN did to NTR Or else as you mentioned YSR kill some people and become powerful politician like CM or some thing else. Even they don�t care about media or people like you keep telling about their cheating, factionist. They will do what they want to do.

    3) People who want to do the corruption but they didn�t get a chance to do that. Searching and searching for a chance to do the corruption�But they all �GOOD FOR NOTHINGS�. Those people will always talk about other people corruptions and factionist stories even they don�t have enough knowledge. I men to say JUST LIKE YOU.

    Hope you got the point here.





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  • spdy_mn
    06-27 01:08 PM
    Guys, we will know the exact truth in 3 weeks. Until then we have to do what we can do and not worry about things that are not in our control.

    I know it is easy to say and tough to do but what other option do we have ??





    mchundi
    01-23 06:41 PM
    Can they use same LC for more than one I-140?
    Trying to understand damage done by LC substitution scams.
    My understanding is they can and they do that. U will only know when the AOS is taken up for processing. In this case there were 5 of them on the same labor. Even 140 gets approved, but not 485. I really wud like to know how VISA numbers get handled in these cases.
    I know several guys who took this path. Of them only one was a genuine case. All others were some kind of deals. Only one of them had a bad deal(Thanks to Mandalapa). Others r still happy with their EAD's.
    I mean this is a widespread practice. I situations like now when we have so few VISA numbers it is unfortunate one for us if those VISA numbers r lost.





    u.misc
    01-19 11:34 AM
    Dude, I don't know where you come from but you have a very thorough and deep knowledge of how to run the prostitution business. However, I am sorry to say that you know nothing about consulting business.

    You call desi consulting companies whatever bad names you want, but the truth is that consulting companies are the one who:
    1. Files for GC, the way you ask with no questions asked. (nothing illegal about it)
    2. Helps you maintain legal status while you are on the bench ... If you are working for non-desi company and your services are not required, you get a pink slip.
    3. Pay you per you skills. Contrary to general conceptions, desi consulting companies pay you appropriately (at least most of them) per the billing rate they get from client. Remember it involves cost to run you payroll like payroll taxes and salary of employees, so you can't keep 100% of billing rate.

    Desi consulting companies are not always a blood sucker and desi consultants are not idiots. Infact they are may be more skilled than a IT profession working in big-shot American IT company and doing the same job for last 5 years. Consulting provides you a new job and new set of challenges and technologies to work with every now and then.

    Consultants are the work force driving American IT needs.



    In fact consider the consulting business like prostitution and the h1b consulting companies as no more then pimp.No matter whether my sister or I work for the same.Let me explain the business processes of two for you.
    1.Client is most important in both the cases.No matter how client mistreated you , the pimp will take you to different client but will never snub the client.
    2.You work at client site on odd hour.
    3.It's pimp's job to keep pros under control and scare them of consequences for deserting them. H1b is one such tool and another is too restrictive contract ( 18 months etc ).
    4.If your tech skill got outdated they will dump you ( regardless of contract ) . Old pros becomes "Mausi" and old consultant opens Consulting co and starts h1b hiring.
    5.If you have to have latest skill and for every new engagement client will select from many resume like in pros business. Pros do make etc to be in market.
    6. Pimp will not like the contract to hire clause but h1b/pros will like to have that.
    7. when some one enforces law to ban the business organize protest march of pros . have you seen any protest march by pimps ? Same here , protest march by h1b consultant not by consulting co.

    Try to observe the prostitution business and your profession and there is not much differences except we have illusion and they don't.



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